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can anyone tell me how and where to direct feed audio into a tram d201. i have 2.,hand wired and regular. trying to run a berinhger 1202on them. i got the whole keying down thing figured out with a foot pedal, but the audio sounds crappy going through the mic plug. i want it to sound like it does when i plug the headphones into the berinhger. sure does not sound like that coming back out of the radio. i am using a studio mic for the audio. if you do not want to post on here, p.m. me
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You can remove C612 from the circuit and line feed the clockwise end of the mic gain pot R622B through a .22uF mylar or ceramic disc cap. The Behringer has plenty of output to drive the second mic amp stage.
Make sure that you don't make any connection to the other end of where C612 connected to the output (pin 6) of V601A as there is 277 volts DC there.

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thanks, goldfinger. i will take a look in there next time i get a chance and see if i can locate those parts.
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Here is the picture from Sams 88 to locate C612 on a hand wired:

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Deerslayer how is the mod comming along??
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I gave up on the tram mod. Deerslayer
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Where was the hangup ??
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I would like more info on this....I am a little confused on how this gets connected. No chokes, no diodes, just directly connected?
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Goldfinger wrote:line feed the clockwise end of the mic gain pot R622B through a .22uF mylar or ceramic disc cap.
Inject the + side of the line level feed through a .22 cap to the mic gain pot after removing C612.
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Awesome, thanks. Where does the ground/shield go? Does this pass the lows and highs nicely? I am used to running my Kenwood ts850, direct injected. Wanted to try some plate modulated audio.
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Well that didn't take long. Did this mod this evening, wow! It sounds wonderful, it may be my current settings using Waves plug-ins but almost sounds better then the Kenwood.
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Sorry, ground can just be the chassis, but sounds like you got it.. Good deal!
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Thanks! The audio out of the Kenwood was smooth yet loud, using my settings. The same settings going through the Tram is punchy, loud, yet smooth with a little cleaner sound. Wish I knew about this earlier! I assume this can be done on Brownings as well? Any benefit over the other?
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deerslayer wrote:can anyone tell me how and where to direct feed audio into a tram d201. i have 2.,hand wired and regular. trying to run a berinhger 1202on them. i got the whole keying down thing figured out with a foot pedal, but the audio sounds crappy going through the mic plug. i want it to sound like it does when i plug the headphones into the berinhger. sure does not sound like that coming back out of the radio. i am using a studio mic for the audio. if you do not want to post on here, p.m. me
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Please, please nobody hate me for this :roll:

I know alot of you guys like wide band audio; I for one do not.

Just like I don't like echos, reverbs or anything artificial but now listen;

that's MY perogative.

A plate modulated Tram with a good mic sounds better than anything

out there. :wink: JUST THE WAY IT IS. ! ! !

Ok now you guys can hang me.

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DLL,
I HATE YOU! ;)

Actually, the way he's injecting this Tram is still like using a stock radio with a good mic. The caps in the audio chain would all still be stock and passing the narrower frequencies. The only thing wide-band would be the mic. The radio would still be cutting off below 300hz, although if the sound were being EQ'd to have more low end, it would transmit a slightly fuller signal than a G-stand D-104 would.

Mr. Lightning,
All radios will have different tonal responses so I guess the only way to find out if a Browning is better than a Tram would be to try it. The iron is a little bigger in the Tram, so I'd guess that it would be better, but you never know..
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Ok Goldfinger~

Thanks for giving me a better understanding; and that sounds good too.

I guess I've just heard some '' dang '' good sounding Trams out there

with good quality G-stands----that in my opinion; there is absolutely

NOTHING you could do to make them sound '' better ''.

There's a lot of rigs that need some help audio-wise.

Just not a Tram. :wink:

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Oh, and by the way; I've got a beautiful D201 with a SHURE model 522 that

I will put up against anything on the air.. :idea:
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I agree with the Tram sounding good with just the G-stand, however I wanted to try and see what kind of response can be had with running vocal processing and whatnot. No echos, no reverbs, just EQ'd audio, along with some compression and limiters. The sound is amazing, very full, loud, punchy, but I assume this is because of tubes vs. transistors.
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I love full audio,,
Without echo and reverb is always a plus to me.
Glad it's workin out good for ya.
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Yes, I agree, on a full bandwidth receiver, I've heard some purty sounding D-201's that were only on a G-stand.. no doubt! I'm sure the 522 in the Hi impedance mode would sound nice too with a frequency response of 60 to 11,000 Hz.
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Goldfinger wrote:Yes, I agree, on a full bandwidth receiver, I've heard some purty sounding D-201's that were only on a G-stand.. no doubt! I'm sure the 522 in the Hi impedance mode would sound nice too with a frequency response of 60 to 11,000 Hz.

Goldfinger~

It ''is'' ran in the high impedance mode and I discovered this mic on this

radio by mistake because all of my non-amplified D104s were wired to

something else. Everyone who hears it tells me not to ever take it off of

the rig. I've heard it only once on a videogate and I too thought ''wow''.

Thanks for letting me have my input.

I'm 10-7

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Hey, I've never meant to ever hold you or anyone back from their outlook.

Of course I was completely joking when I said I hate you, just rolling with your comment.
Happy Holidays DLL! :)


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Goldfinger~

Same to you and your family~ Happy holidays 8)

Tell ya what too~ That 522 Shure is a great mic for sure.

This time I'm 10-7 for sure. (OR Shure)



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522 still sells everywhere 8)Image
Guitar Center Too[/quote]

This is the choice microphone for supermarket paging systems :D

Beer on sale on aisle #7 :twisted:



Merry Xmas Y'all
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A local amateur was using a SHURE 522 this morning on a

Flex 3000 on 75M AM.

It sounded as good as ''anything'' I have ever heard.

The other 12 stations thought so too~

If anyone ever gets a chance to grab on of these then you better

do so.. :wink:

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